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Scupper Hose Replacement

Postby '84Offshore » Dec Fri 11, 2009 4:55 pm

Last season I noticed the hoses connecting my deck drains to the scuppers on the transom are dry rotted. I plan on replacing them come spring time prior to launch.....already thinking of next season!

Question is, should the scuppers be replaced at the same time? I see many posts about replacing thru-hull fittings and am assuming this would come under the same concern.....

Are these known to have problems like the rest of the plastic thru hull fittings? I am assuming they are original at this point.

Thanks in advance..........
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Postby seasick » Dec Fri 11, 2009 10:42 pm

If they are OK, it may not be worth the effort to replace. They might be difficult to get to. The flaps probably need to be replaced.
That said, depending on the length of tubing from the scupper to the deck fitting, you may beed to undo them just to get the hose onto the bib.
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Postby '84Offshore » Dec Sat 12, 2009 1:33 am

Guess I will make the decision when I replace the hoses.......
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Postby BobP » Dec Sat 12, 2009 9:49 pm

Are the old ones plastic ?

If so, if you are going to keep boat longer may want new ones, Attwood makes a nice stainless unit, not too expensive.
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Postby Workdog » Dec Sun 13, 2009 1:43 am

Anybody have a lead for a stainless fitting for the deck fitting? I would almost bet, if you try to replace the hose for the scupper you are going to trash the plastic deck fitting.
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Postby '84Offshore » Dec Sun 13, 2009 1:44 pm

This doesn't sound like it's going to be too easy.
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Postby PA228G » Dec Sun 13, 2009 2:28 pm

Thru-hulls and scupper replacement are on my list before spring. I found these - they have a stainless grate / nylon body version and can be ordered directly from Southco - but I haven't done that yet.

http://www.southco.com/products/m7-drai ... 05306.html

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Postby Workdog » Dec Sun 13, 2009 4:52 pm

'84Offshore wrote:This doesn't sound like it's going to be too easy.


After I get the deck fittings (I already have the transom scuppers) I will put them all in. Since the hose from deck fitting to scupper is so short, it seems to me that trying to bend the new hose to install on the hose barbs would be very difficult without breaking an old plastic fitting. My plan is to install the new deck fitting first, then the hose onto the deck fitting. Then, when I push the new scupper in from the outside of the transom, I will be sliding the scupper hose barb into the hose and screwing on the scupper nut at the same time.
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Postby Seahunter » Dec Sun 13, 2009 7:57 pm

Not sure about yours but on my 226 the deck drains are straight and they screwed an elbow into the drain to make the right angle bend.

I replaced both the hose and the scupper last fall. I had no problem removing or reinstalling the hose to the deck drain fitting.

I was going to replace the deck drain as well but found it to be just as solid as the day it was installed.
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Postby BobP » Dec Tue 15, 2009 1:21 pm

Pa228, make sure dimensions are the same on the Southcos as what you have existing.
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Postby RUMBLEFISH » Dec Tue 15, 2009 8:38 pm

Oh its just so much fun doing all the thru hulls. Just ask my hands they loved the fiberglass splinters. And on my older 89 grady I got to hand it to the MFG for making the access so easy.
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Postby UpGrady » Dec Fri 18, 2009 5:09 pm

I have an '86 Sailfish with twin I/O's and will be replacing the stern scupper hoses this spring. After reading this thread, I am now concerned that the transom overboard portion might be plastic which I did not fully look at or expect. Can anyone confirm that they are plastic so I can prepare accordingly for the worst case of trying to remove the hose from the plastic?

FYI- this is a freshwater boat, still OEM stuff from '86.
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Postby Seahunter » Dec Sat 19, 2009 4:54 pm

UpGrady wrote:I have an '86 Sailfish with twin I/O's and will be replacing the stern scupper hoses this spring. After reading this thread, I am now concerned that the transom overboard portion might be plastic which I did not fully look at or expect. Can anyone confirm that they are plastic so I can prepare accordingly for the worst case of trying to remove the hose from the plastic?

FYI- this is a freshwater boat, still OEM stuff from '86.


They didn't change over to metal fittings until 1998 or so. I had no problems removing the old hose from the plastic fitting in the couse of swapping out my plastic ones for Stainless
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Postby uncljohn » Dec Mon 21, 2009 8:18 pm

I have an 88 Seafarer. The scuppers are easy to get to via the transom hatches, have to move batteries but otherwise open area. Not sure about your setup.

About 5 years ago after I first got the boat I replaced all thru-hull fittings. The original scuppers looked ok, but I put a chisel to each and gave a single whack and both shot off. So the looks can be deceiving. Wasn't too much of a hassel. Used 5200 to seal.
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Postby JUMPNJACK » Dec Tue 22, 2009 12:44 am

UpGrady, the transom drains on my '87 are plastic as well but they seem to be very heavy duty. I recently installed new scupper valves and the old ones refused to budge. Wound up installing the new ones on top of the old ones after clipping off the old rubber flaps. By the way you have a very nice looking Sailfish! 8)
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