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Hi, so this year we will have out 28ft Grady White DC in a tidal slip (I know its not ideal at all but its the only thing available). Was wondering if i could get some suggestions on rigging/equipment to keep the boat from getting damaged. The boat will only be out of the water for 2ish hours per cycle. What do people have for recs as far as bumpers and lines for this year? Thanks!

Ill include a picture of the slip. Its the one with the white bumpers on it currently.
 

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Location? (just curious if this is in Gloucester, MA @ Rocky Neck)

1. I would get onto the mud/muck and give it a good cleaning. I would make sure there aren't any rocks, debris, etc.
2. I would thoroughly inspect the dock and make sure there are no nails, screws or other protrusions that could scratch the boat. If there are things that you cant remove (like brackets), I would ask if the marina if you can cover them with rug/carpet.
3. I would invest in some 20x8 fenders and hang them horizontally on the dock. I would also use a fabric cover cover on them. In this case, I would likely spend the money and go with the Slammer Fender System (link below).
4. On the boat, I would double/trip up on the bottom paint on the keel. I might even put a keel saver as far along the keel as reasonably possible. I.e. to the point where it doesn't impact the performace of the boat.
5. I would use heavy duty snubbers on the dock lines to try to give them stretch and allow you to still tie the lines fairly tight. Along these lines, I would also use 3/4" lines.


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Location? (just curious if this is in Gloucester, MA @ Rocky Neck)

1. I would get onto the mud/muck and give it a good cleaning. I would make sure there aren't any rocks, debris, etc.
2. I would thoroughly inspect the dock and make sure there are no nails, screws or other protrusions that could scratch the boat. If there are things that you cant remove (like brackets), I would ask if the marina if you can cover them with rug/carpet.
3. I would invest in some 20x8 fenders and hang them horizontally on the dock. I would also use a fabric cover cover on them. In this case, I would likely spend the money and go with the Slammer Fender System (link below).
4. On the boat, I would double/trip up on the bottom paint on the keel. I might even put a keel saver as far along the keel as reasonably possible. I.e. to the point where it doesn't impact the performace of the boat.
5. I would use heavy duty snubbers on the dock lines to try to give them stretch and allow you to still tie the lines fairly tight. Along these lines, I would also use 3/4" lines.


Dock Fenders For Boats by Slammer Marine – Integrated Dock Fender

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It is rocky neck! I see your also a Gloucester guy. I'll look into the slammer system (believe cape ann marina have them). I am trying to avoid spending hundreds as its in no way a long term plan but if it helps substantially i can look into it.
 
It is an expensive system, but for your situation, I think it would be money well spent. It would likely be easy to sell in the secondary market, as well.

I am considering it for my slip, but haven't worked up the courage to write the check.. LOL

Are you new to the area?
 
JJF said:
It is an expensive system, but for your situation, I think it would be money well spent. It would likely be easy to sell in the secondary market, as well.

I am considering it for my slip, but haven't worked up the courage to write the check.. LOL

Are you new to the area?
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We've been out of Ipswich for years but this is our first time in Gloucester. Would love to hear your opinion on the slip location if you would. Its out behind the old Studio and from what I've been told it will be out the water for only around 2 hours. I'm sure your aware of how hard it is to get a deep water slip or mooring in the area so you'll understand the situation.
 
FYI... I am right near there, so let me know if you ever need a hand with anything. I PM you my number.
 
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BTW...

If you need a Yamaha tech, I have access to a Yamaha Master Tech who is now out (mobile) on his own.
 
If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that your boat will be beached for 2 hours every single day?
 
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If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that your boat will be beached for 2 hours every single day?
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heheh East coast...twice a day....

That slip looks like its for a 17 whaler or a Carolina skiff
I don't think I would do that with a 28 ft deepV. You will topple over and your water inlets will mud up.
 
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heheh East coast...twice a day....

That slip looks like its for a 17 whaler or a Carolina skiff
I don't think I would do that with a 28 ft deepV. You will topple over and your water inlets will mud up.
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I would do anything else but leave my boat there, sorry i wouldn't sleep at night
 
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Yikes... I wouldn't want my boat beached on the sand/rocks at all, and especially not twice a day for multiple hours at a time. My parents and I had a 17' Arima when I was growing up and we just had a buoy on the sandbar out in front of our beach cabin. At the time, my parents didn't want to spend the money to have someone drop an anchor/buoy out past the drop-off, so during the summertime it would get beached at least two times a day for 6-8 hours at a time as well. That was the case for years and years until we sold the boat, of which when we finally did, the gel coat and fiberglass had all worn off on the keel of the boat. Fortunately, we had no issues selling the boat and even disclosed the issue to the buyer of it, but he really didn't seem to care at all. That being said, it likely would've been quite a bit of money back then to have the boat repaired, and imagine it would cost at least $2k-$5k+ to repair in todays market, if not even more than that. Your boat is your property and you can obviously do what you want to do with it, but as mentioned above, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my boat like that at all, and especially not for months and months on end.
 
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This is what a Marlin and an Adventure look like when the tide goes out. This is in the Annisquam and hard sand.

Your slip looks like mostly mud. Plenty of boats in Essex sit in the mud for part of the tide. I’d be worried about the rocks at your slip entrance though. IMG_3339.jpeg
 
I'm a little further North from you - midcoast Maine, but...

Maybe I'm not seeing things right, but are you sure your boat will ONLY be dry for 2 hours? And by dry, I mean NOT floating. Looking at the picture, it sure looks like it will be not floating for more than 2 hours. Once the water covers the slip bed, you still need about another 2'.

What options do you have if you miss the tide and come back to the slip too late and can't get in?
 
But to respond to your question about damage... I don't see how you have to worry, at all, about the docks. They're floating docks so they'll go with the boat - the boat won't contact the docks if you use your dock lines properly. The only thing of worry is if there are any rocks in that mud - it'll set down nicely onto the mud no problem - but rocks are a different story.

Just keep the boat centered in the slip.

Or, are you saying that you will have a slip partner? If that's the case, then yes, dock edging is your friend - there's lots of that out there to choose from.

Does the marina allow you to screw into the dock?
 
Slip looks small for a 28 ft boat. If the boat is high and dry for 2 hours each tide cycle it is probably another 1-2 hours before you have navigable water to go in and out. timing trips is going to be a PITA. Also what happens when the boat is high and dry and tips over to the dock side ?
 
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