2022 Canyon 271 Seacock location question

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I'm trying to confirm that the seacock in the front bilge area is the holding tank discharge valve.

I have other questions from owners if they are willing to listen.

We bought the boat at the end of this summer and are still learning about it.

Thanks.

Ken West
2022 Canyon 271
Irvington, VA
 

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You have a bracket for 2 pull shafts, how many through hulls/ seacocks do you have there? The one you show is in the water inlet bracket, nothing in the discharge bracket. Do you know if you have a fresh water, or raw water/salt water flush head? If fresh, you only need one discharge through hull. Where is the deck fill/pump out for the holding tank, in that area, or at the stern??
 
It looks like the left side says Head Inlet and the right says Head Discharge. Since there is no lever, as mentioned you may have a fresh water toilet
 
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seasick said:
It looks like the left side says Head Inlet and the right says Head Discharge. Since there is no lever, as mentioned you may have a fresh water toilet
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I did find the missing valve handle and pull lever in the boat bag. Apparently dealers recommend removing to avoid trouble with Coast Guard inspections.

Can't discharge illegally if you don't have a valve to do so.
 
So, you have a raw water/salt water head. You will be much happier if you can find a way to connect the water input to a non-pressurized freshwater source. It is the saltwater microorganisms that die in your holding tank that create bad smells, more so than what humans put in, especially if it is restricted to urine only.
Mine rarely gets used, and it would never be flushed more than twice on a single day of boating, so that’s probably no more than a gallon of water. I disconnected my raw water intake from the toilet, and installed a 5 gallon, gravity fed tank, which is easily refillable.
If you are going to do shore side pump out, removing the handle is not a problem, but the Coast Guard regulation is more to make you think, and prevent accidental discharge, because they know that if you want to dump overboard, they can’t really prevent it. A lock, or a zip tie, anything that secures the handle in place, satisfies the regulation.
 
Thank you for your advice. My brother in law made the same point about the raw water(salt) system except his solution was to plumb to the fresh water system on the boat. Your suggestion makes alot more sense and is really practical. Thank you very much.
 
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Thank you for your advice. My brother in law made the same point about the raw water(salt) system except his solution was to plumb to the fresh water system on the boat. Your suggestion makes alot more sense and is really practical. Thank you very much.
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The plumbing is more complicated for a fresh water solution if using your only fresh water tank. You have to be 100 certain that black water does not back flow into your fresh water plumbing
You might benefit from some research on the Xylem/Jabsco website where you can look at typical plumbing designs.
 
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I did find the missing valve handle and pull lever in the boat bag. Apparently dealers recommend removing to avoid trouble with Coast Guard inspections.

Can't discharge illegally if you don't have a valve to do so.
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Actually, more than just dealers - that's a general/common recommendation to satisfy the legality of not discharging within no-discharge zones. There's no "one" way to do it - but the most common is to remove the actual handle at the seacock or somehow secure it in the closed position - and something as simple as a zip tie usually suffices. With that in mind, I think it's reasonable to think that you could immobilize the remote handle. And this might be as easy as clamping a ring onto the handle and then a zip tie from the ring to the bracket so it can't be moved.
 
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Hi,

I wrote instructions for use of the head. I laminated them and placed them above the toilet. I put a red sticker on the outlet handle to differentiate between the two. On my boat, to dump the head, you have to hold a button down on a switch that is away from the valve lever.

Do you have an electric head? If so, would you like my written instructions?

FWIW - I have had the USGC Voluntary Safety Inspection done several times and been boarded several times. My factory head setup has never been an issue.
 
BTW - I use my raw-water head very frequently. I treat it with head treatment, and I have no issues with smell. Several times a season, I will go out, empty it, fill it with fresh water via the pump-out fitting and my fresh-water tank and then pump it out again; rinse-later-repeat a few times. This helps to get the semi-solids out and keep them from building up.
 
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BTW - I use my raw-water head very frequently. I treat it with head treatment, and I have no issues with smell. Several times a season, I will go out, empty it, fill it with fresh water via the pump-out fitting and my fresh-water tank and then pump it out again; rinse-later-repeat a few times. This helps to get the semi-solids out and keep them from building up.
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Thank you. Our boat is pretty small and our current trips are short so I don't forsee alot of use of the head but that being said, we did have a young person on the boat and they must have had experience with boats before. Next thing I saw was her coming out of the head area. I was glad she used it and I do think it would be a good idea to have instructions posted. If you are willing to share yours, that would be great. I was hesistant to allow people to use it but when we were pumping it out for the first time, the marina owner talked plain talk about the head and holding tank. It is what it is. Having the option for anyone to use the bathroom is a great convenience and hopefully makes guests more comfortable. Might as well use. We have added the treatment and fresh water and plan to pump it out. We do not have a need to discharge into the water so we are ok without the valve. Everyone's information has been great. Thank you for your input. Ours is electric.
 

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