I have a 12k lift and a 306 Canyon that is 11k wet, I don’t fill the 290 fuel tank more then half and I load the boat with people while in the water. So far everything is working well. Keep up on lift maintenance for sure.
285 Freedom on a 10,000lb lift... any issues?
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Grady finally got back to me with the "official" weight. They said the total weight of a 285 Freedom with a full load of fuel is approximately 10,079lbs. Thought it was funny they used "approximately" with such a specific number. Anyway, we decided not to get the boat, not just because of the weight, but it's just not the right boat for us. My wife and I both agreed that it was a bit overkill for our purposes.
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Check the thread I just posted with the weights and dimensions. Grady sent me a chart with every model weight and dims.
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Exactly... as mentioned at least a couple different times, the boat fully loaded could very well be at over 10k lbs, possibly even more than that and closer to 10.5k lbs, depending on fuel, safety gear, water, fishing gear, ice, food and so forth. I admittedly do always have to giggle at the guys who use dry weights and then add everything up and go off of that number, but are then still 1,000-1,500 lbs off on the total weight of the boat itself. Especially those that have been boating for years, as boats I've found out are generally always going to be much heavier than you think they are going to be, and I imagine that's one of the many reasons why Grady White has the "approximate" test weights on their website. I see that you uploaded the chart onto another thread, thanks for doing so! Sorry to hear about the new boat not being up to your liking, do you still have the old boat or what's the plan now?
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Seems like the industry standard should be to list the wet weight (engines with a full tank of gas and whatever fresh water). That dry weight without engines is absolutely meaningless. People are trying to make decisions based off of this information.... why make the customer make WAGs?
Yes, still plan to keep the 235 indefinitely. Looking forward to seeing this new 265.
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Agreed! I imagine that's why GW, and I'm assuming other boat manufacturers, list the weights of their test boats during fuel economy testing. Then you've got a much closer figure, instead of just ballpark, which can again be off by 1k+ lbs or more. Most of the time it probably doesn't matter, but like in your instance when trying to determine which lift to use and if it'll support your boat, or which truck you need to tow/trailer your boat... those are times where the total weight of the boat/motor and even the trailer when towing are considerably more important.
Granted all this is a moot point now, but it's interesting to do math (even for those of us with experience). If we add in a full water tank, that brings up (rounding up) to 9,200lbs before gear and whatever is in the fishboxes. But lets add some pounds for batteries since they're usually not included in the dry weight - so say 9,400lbs. Then gear/fishboxes. If you totally fill the fishboxes with all water, you're probably getting to that 10K mark. Still good for the lift. But, in reality, those boxes are not going to be filled with water and/or you could drain them. So in the end, still totally fine for the lift as you originally thought. Even at that 10,079... still totally fine. Whether one feels comfortable doing it is, of course, a different story - but by the facts, it's good.
Little girls with no real experience who mostly just sit behind a keyboard doing internet reserarch will try and take cheap jabs and giggle.
Good luck with your search, Freedom... and good job keeping the money in your pocket... at least for now...
Little girls with no real experience who mostly just sit behind a keyboard doing internet reserarch will try and take cheap jabs and giggle.
Good luck with your search, Freedom... and good job keeping the money in your pocket... at least for now...
Should be, yes. But it's a competition - and if they don't all do it, none of them will. And, certainly, there isn't going to be a law passed to make them do it.
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Several paragraphs of filler coming from those with supposedly 20+ years of experience in the industry yet are claiming an estimate that's 1,200 lbs less than what Grady White themselves advertise the boat to be at. Funnily enough, the "little girl" at 6'2" and 265 lbs was spot on at just over the 10k lb figure mentioned multiple times now comparatively. I'll once again bow out so as to not further derail another thread, but thank you to Freedom for posting the actual figures and not ones of guessing and speculation from those that can't read a performance bulletin. Also, good luck with whatever boat purchase you decide on going with in the future.
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I knew it! Self promoting either what you can bench (average) or your size is your go to... I was just waiting for it.
But to be clear, I never said the total wet weight was 1,200lbs less. I said "plus whatever else" one might add on top of the normal engine/gas... and that whatever else is a wide margin to allow for lots of stuff... as clearly evidenced by Grady's "super" wet weight. Go ahead and re-read what I wrote, if you want.
Maybe not a girl... but certainly a little man. And, yup, that's me dropping down to your level.