Bow rail rust????

Gary M

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I've owned this boat for 6 summers now and suddenly, unless I wash the boat right away with lots of soapy suds and tons of water after taking some spray, I'm getting this overnight! It's never done that before so it was a real eye-opener! Is it the screws that are rusting? The base of the bow rail itself? Any ideas?

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Looks like the outside screw has broke and rusting out. Loosen the two set screws(alen heads) and the 3 screws that hold the base and lift the base, you should be able to see if it's rust and what is rusting out. Are you sure is rust ?
 

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The fact that 6-8 of these did this after a good soaking of salt spray is what made me wonder what was going on!

Where as I used to be able to get away with just a fresh water hosedown and then a full washing the next day, I can't do that now and this has come up all of a sudden this year!

Any ideas?
 

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I'd replace the fasteners, waxing them good BEFORE use, using good bedding compound ... but see below. SS is stain LESS, not stain free. Water allowed to sit on most SS pieces can cause the 'rust' bleeding you are seeing. It is my bet that the fasteners are corroding due to crevice corrosion and that is weeping out from under the fitting.

While a picture tells the story, see to follow, here are a few fun & easy to use facts for the layperson about this topic. Looking at the chart, you can see why zincs are use for anode protection of underwater gear. You can also see why marine bronze (alloy of copper & tin, sometimes with some other goodies added, proprietary or not) is the material of use for whenever a metal is needed underwater. There might be even better options, but the price tag for those expen$ive alloys or metals, e.g., titanium or gold, certaintly price them out of consideration. Looking at stainless steel, one can also quickly see why SS is great choice out of the water … but not the best choice for a mariner whenever it is fully immersed in water.

* Galvanic corrosion is corrosion that naturally occurs between dissimilar metals. Put a SS fastener in a tin boat and the aluminum boat surrounding the SS fastener or hardware will be eaten away.

* Such corrosion is exacerbated in the presence of an electrolyte (water) and even worse, when coupled with a chloride (salt from saltwater). Now you know ?why? saltwater can be sooooooo corrosive. Further evidence of this that you may have seen for yourself is older aluminum spinning reels where the paint was flaking off around the SS screws. The aluminum housing under the paint was corroding within itself, and where the paint flaked off, you may have seen a white powered corrosion (salt).

* Stainless steel is not truly stainless. The high chromium and/or nickel content makes it stain ‘less’, but no SS alloy is truly stainless.

* What causes SS to lose it’s protection? SS gets the layer of protection from the oxygen in the air; cut it off - like immersing it in water, allowing water to sit on the material, or completely encapsulating the SS fastener in an enclosed hole – and the SS will corrode. An example of this is when you see ‘rust’ forming on the tops of the SS screws used to hold a SS cleat or rail fititng onto the fiberglass washboards.

* ‘Working’ SS (machined, punched, drilled, or welded) can remove the protective oxide layer. The heat or mechanical action can disrupt the atoms at the surface and remove the protective oxide layer, leaving the area worked pretty close to be plain carbon steel. This is why Lenco trim tabs can rust and fall off – happening to more than one I know of in its 1st year of use (as the rolled hinge area is also welded).

* SS is also prone to crevice corrosion when under heavy tensile loads. That is why those ‘cheap’ SS hose clamps look so darn rusty! It is under a load and the band was pierced by a heavy metal punch machine. Thus I recommend full-band-type of hose clamps, known as AWAB brand clamps, for any critical connections.

* If you need to put SS through aluminum – insulate them. They make special lubricants or protective ‘goops’ for this (Tef-Gel is but one brand), but I use adhesive-line heatshrink on the fastener body and thick nylon washers under the bolt head and nylok nuts.
 

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