Cost for thorough cleaning and ceramic coating interior/exterior 1988 22' Seafarer Cuddy Cabin

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I wet sanded my Grady with 800 back up to 500, compounded polished up to finesse it. My 1986 had zero care from he previous owner and was chalked. It was a ton of work and at this price I would definitely purchase this service if I could find anyone in NYC. well worth it. maintenance is now just a polish and a synthetic wax, but I definitely would have gone for ceramic if I could have been as thorough as a pro to do it.
I assume you meant 'up to 1500' and not 500. Sanding as mentioned can lead to gel coat damage. It is best to start with a finer polishing or rubbing compound and if that doesn't work, move to coarser grade, followed but finer grades'
I like the Colonite products but in severe cases, they may not be aggressive enough.
 

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When I researched ceramic, it required a periodic (timing dependent on sun/sea exposure could be as short as 3-4 months in FLA) application of a booster. Seemed to me that I could also wax every 3 months, and keep a shine. It is not a magic coat the boat, and only wash for the next 5 years
 

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I assume you meant 'up to 1500' and not 500. Sanding as mentioned can lead to gel coat damage. It is best to start with a finer polishing or rubbing compound and if that doesn't work, move to coarser grade, followed but finer grades'
I like the Colonite products but in severe cases, they may not be aggressive enough.
yeah, mine was heavily chalked. I started 1500 as you say to see if I would burn through the gel coat but there was just too much oxidation so I went down to 800 and then back up finer to compound.. could probably have even done 400! wet sanding. compounding would have never done it... or my arms would have given out. no sure which first.
 

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I assume you meant 'up to 1500' and not 500. Sanding as mentioned can lead to gel coat damage. It is best to start with a finer polishing or rubbing compound and if that doesn't work, move to coarser grade, followed but finer grades'
I like the Colonite products but in severe cases, they may not be aggressive enough.
there was a good total boat compound that starts as a rough compound and as you polish gets finer and finer, but I think I had the best results with 3M of all the things I tried
 

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After all the hard work for over a 2 year period when off season, I got my 92's finish looking really nice. I have tried a lot of different products and found that to maintain, I have been using the Shurhold Pro Polish...it seems to last longer than any of the carnuba's. From there I would overcoat with the Ceramic Spray which was literally wipe on and wipe off. I have since switched this year to the new Graphene spray which is applies even easier and better than the Ceramic. The slickness and gloss is crazy and so far has been holding up for several months. To refresh, just wipe on and wipe off.
 

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After all the hard work for over a 2 year period when off season, I got my 92's finish looking really nice. I have tried a lot of different products and found that to maintain, I have been using the Shurhold Pro Polish...it seems to last longer than any of the carnuba's. From there I would overcoat with the Ceramic Spray which was literally wipe on and wipe off. I have since switched this year to the new Graphene spray which is applies even easier and better than the Ceramic. The slickness and gloss is crazy and so far has been holding up for several months. To refresh, just wipe on and wipe off.
Robert, what products/process did you use to get the finish ready to polish and coat? What Graphene product are you using? Thanks, Bill
 

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BF22Grady, I have been using many different products and finally determined those that worked best for the boat are from Majestic Solutions which is actually local here in Raleigh, NC, but I still do the mail order most of the time.

Step 1: For heavy cut: Vibracut 1000. What I like about this is how it does not clog up easily and by the time you work an area, it is mostly gone and ready to re-apply for next area. Very little left on the boat or pad if done right.
Step 2: CP2 which is Cut/Polish. This one will remove the fine scratches left from the heavy cut and increase the gloss, ready for applying a polish. They have a CP3 which is a 3in1 that includes cut/polish/protect. The protect has a synthetic acrylic polish. I think it does a good job, but found that the Pro Polish in next step seems to last longer.
Step 3: Shurehold Pro Polish. Being a polymer, it is not affected by the heat and does not break down as quickly as the carnuba's. It is very easy to use. I think it is in the same class of protection and ease of use as Nu Finish. Wipe on and Wipe off with no greasy residue.
Step 4: I was using the Ceramic Spray called Shock IT. It was great. They just came out with the new Graphene spray called SHIELD which is supposed to be superior to the Ceramic spray. I have to say so far, it is a bit easier to use (as if can get any easier with either) in that when applying with a microfiber towel, just wipe on and with another clean dry towel, wipe off/polish off. You will feel a great difference when applying this stuff. The rag will start to slide so easily and the hydrophobic is crazy.

I try to do a quick detail with the Graphene spray each time I get back from a trip, but don't always have the time or weather cooperating, but it will help for sure to keep me from having to go back to the heavy cut. Great products so far that made it much easier for me to tackle this job as I am getting older and finding it more difficult to wrestle with products that are hard to use and waste my time.

Other points here I have found to make it easier and better are the double sided 3M pads for the polisher. Those are amazing over those single one's that are thinner. Worth the price on those. Also, I used the harbor freight polishers for a few years. They do work, but was having a hard time with them managing the speed control when going slow with the heavy cut. I stepped up to the Dewalt Polisher and again, wow, what a difference. Speed control and torque is amazing! Again, worth the cost.

I don't have any affiliation with any of the products here. This is just my experience so far and what I found works for me. The Majestic products are very reasonably priced as well. First time I went to their store, they bent over backwards to help me out and offer advice. They support the automotive type shops around and give classes and train folks how to do the work, so they are very professional.

I have also tried their cleaners and found nothing to compare. Tidal Wave, cleans anything and is super concentrated. Enzyme Cleaner works great on the interior carpet and other like surfaces. I have removed stains and heavy dirt with both, even had to use the Tidal Wave to clean all the cigarette smoke residue from my mother in laws house when putting up for sale as she had to go into a home. I sprayed the refrigerator with a Tidal Wave solution and you should have seen the stuff just melt off the surface.

I had another company I dealt with many years ago when I used to paint industrial equipment and cars including refurbing them. There are some hidden companies around that have some superior products. Just hard to find them as they don't advertise like 409 or Windex, etc. I guess they tailor more to the professionals than the retail crowds.

Ok, that is my .02 for the day!
 

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One more thought....I also use the Shurhold Pad Cleaner powder to clean the pads. It removes all the residue. Mix one cup in a 5 gal. bucket with 1 gal. water. Soak pad for 30 min. Take out and use pressure from water hose to rinse out. Then put on polisher and spin dry. Ready to go again. I am sure others have their concoction, but this stuff does what it says.....
 

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I have never done this before but I decided to try to cut and polish my new to me 1999 Seafarer a couple weeks ago. I used both the 3M Marine rubbing compound and restorer and wax One Step products. I was watching a lot of Drake’s videos to learn the technique. Masked off the pin strip and bottom paint and placed an arrow on the tape every 2 feet for reference. Many areas needed multiple passes due to the heavy oxidation but I was persistent. I used a borrowed Simoniz polisher and wool pads. It is a good first attempt for this season and I may buy a better polisher and redo next season with a Makita or Dewalt or Grios Garage G9
 

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One more thought....I also use the Shurhold Pad Cleaner powder to clean the pads. It removes all the residue. Mix one cup in a 5 gal. bucket with 1 gal. water. Soak pad for 30 min. Take out and use pressure from water hose to rinse out. Then put on polisher and spin dry. Ready to go again. I am sure others have their concoction, but this stuff does what it says.....
RobertH. I want to Thank You for taking the time to write all of this down! You have provided a tremendous amount of valuable information, not just to me, but to anyone following this thread!
Look me up next time you come to Savannah- I owe you dinner and a beer!
Thanks, Bill
 

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Thanks Bill! Hoping anyone can use this info to their advantage! The process is very rewarding and the compliments I get all the time when trailering is worth it! I even have folks pull up next to me at a stoplight and compliment and start to ask questions before the green light...and all the time at the gas stations when I stop! Very cool and it is amazing how much folks love the Grady's!
 

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So after a year of purchasing alot of polishers and compound here are my best results:

1) Makita rotary with the white wool 3m pad and the 3m heavy gel coat compound (not the car stuff with the red dye).

2) 3m yellow wool pad on the Makita with the 3m finesse it ii.

3) 3m marine wax with scotchgard on the flex 3401.
 

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It’s done! 5 step prep, polish, and wax with minimal sanding. Including the cabin and storage lockers.
Polished the stainless. The boat looks fantastic! They worked (2 guys) six days.
Did not do any ceramic. Thanks for all of your input! I feel this was money very well spent!
 

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It’s done! 5 step prep, polish, and wax with minimal sanding. Including the cabin and storage lockers.
Polished the stainless. The boat looks fantastic! They worked (2 guys) six days.
Did not do any ceramic. Thanks for all of your input! I feel this was money very well spent!
Looks great, enjoy