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Hey Yall:
I figured I would test this idea here because many of you are just great folks and treat people with goofy ideas nice. I spent about 15 years in the evironmental planning arena in Florida. I have had environmental law as grad student at FSU and studied environmental policy there as well. Here in America the "environmental community" has used the courts to pretty much stop development, stop energy exploration, stop boat ramps in Florida, stop every thing it seems. They sue and sue and sue some more.
I thought if I used Stabil or star tron and ring free that I could keep the ethanol problems at bay. Sure there is an extra expense, but the reality of it, we all have expenses from this government mandate on our boat motors, small engines on our lawn equipment, generators and perhaps our cars too. I read here about problems and I read about them on the THT forum. I hear my fellow boaters complain and toss up their hands. So I have been thinking and here is a goofy idea and perhaps somebody has already tried it...but what if we found a boater attorney willing to file a class action lawsuit against the EPA regarding ethanol in gasoline. What if we (meaning boaters everywhere) all chipped in $50 to said attorney to prosecute a legitimate case against the mandates and demonstrate in court the mandate is destroying private property to the tune of millions of dollars? A case like this would have to have solid expert testimonials, proof of ethanol destruction, solid actual dollar costs a year of damages. We could perhaps go as far as asking for a mandate ourselves for 90 octane recreation fuels like Marathon Gas has in the Fla Keys to be made available in areas with high boat use inland and coastal areas?
Under the US Constitution we have a right to property and by the actions of the federal government and their mandates they are infringing upon our property rights. Is it taking like in land use law case? Well maybe not, but they are mandating a fuel which if burned in our boats and left in our tanks will damage them. By doing so they are taking my money indirectly when it comes to buying additives and paying folks for expensive repairs. The irony of it ethanol takes more energy to create than it yeilds which means we are spending even more money on fuel because it takes a little more to yeild the same performance of nonethanol fuels. If we can make a huge collective case and file suit to create an injunction against ethanol in fuels, maybe it works? :hmm
I have one marina here on Lake Fontana with boat gas and honestly it is a seasonal marina and I am not sure I trust their fuel as it could have a ton of water in it. I have no gas stations near me with ethanol free fuels. Any attorneys out there think it possible? More importantly any attorney's out there think it is winnable?
I figured I would test this idea here because many of you are just great folks and treat people with goofy ideas nice. I spent about 15 years in the evironmental planning arena in Florida. I have had environmental law as grad student at FSU and studied environmental policy there as well. Here in America the "environmental community" has used the courts to pretty much stop development, stop energy exploration, stop boat ramps in Florida, stop every thing it seems. They sue and sue and sue some more.
I thought if I used Stabil or star tron and ring free that I could keep the ethanol problems at bay. Sure there is an extra expense, but the reality of it, we all have expenses from this government mandate on our boat motors, small engines on our lawn equipment, generators and perhaps our cars too. I read here about problems and I read about them on the THT forum. I hear my fellow boaters complain and toss up their hands. So I have been thinking and here is a goofy idea and perhaps somebody has already tried it...but what if we found a boater attorney willing to file a class action lawsuit against the EPA regarding ethanol in gasoline. What if we (meaning boaters everywhere) all chipped in $50 to said attorney to prosecute a legitimate case against the mandates and demonstrate in court the mandate is destroying private property to the tune of millions of dollars? A case like this would have to have solid expert testimonials, proof of ethanol destruction, solid actual dollar costs a year of damages. We could perhaps go as far as asking for a mandate ourselves for 90 octane recreation fuels like Marathon Gas has in the Fla Keys to be made available in areas with high boat use inland and coastal areas?
Under the US Constitution we have a right to property and by the actions of the federal government and their mandates they are infringing upon our property rights. Is it taking like in land use law case? Well maybe not, but they are mandating a fuel which if burned in our boats and left in our tanks will damage them. By doing so they are taking my money indirectly when it comes to buying additives and paying folks for expensive repairs. The irony of it ethanol takes more energy to create than it yeilds which means we are spending even more money on fuel because it takes a little more to yeild the same performance of nonethanol fuels. If we can make a huge collective case and file suit to create an injunction against ethanol in fuels, maybe it works? :hmm
I have one marina here on Lake Fontana with boat gas and honestly it is a seasonal marina and I am not sure I trust their fuel as it could have a ton of water in it. I have no gas stations near me with ethanol free fuels. Any attorneys out there think it possible? More importantly any attorney's out there think it is winnable?