A lot of earlier LED's, especially one's that guys were putting into original halogen spreader housing's and were refitting them to LED's had issues, and the 10,000hr life span was more like 300, mostly because of a lack of knowledge about LED's in the marine industry. also, they need a different lense design to spread the light, a standard halogen lense would not work well. I think the problem Chris had was using smaller cheaper LED's, some had flaws. I like what the guy is doing, but persoanlyl have seen more issues and failure's in one's with more smaller LED's then one's with less bigger one's, but smaller LED light's are easier to get, cheaper to buy usually and there are many more being manufactured, the bigger LED's with more watt output are something newer and were not available when LEd's first came out. Not many LED spreader's out, this is the first real season with some competition in the market. Ocean LED has one coming out in June or July, but after hearing their pricetag, it would not be towards the top of my list, hopefully they can get the price down some. As for underwater lights, there are a ton out there now and plenty of pictures, but in the end you get what you pay for, so know how practical they will be and make a decision based on that, buying top of the line may not make sense for all, infact it usually doesn't, but low grade isn;t the best option either, that just leads to wasted money or more money spent to do it right the second time.