Livewell on 28'3" Release

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OdessaTim

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Does anyone have any sucessfull alterations to keep the livewell from overflowing while running the boat. I've tried additional rubber seals to no avail. The top of the livewell is just not sealed well at all and a lot of water pours on the deck while underway.
 
Shut the intake valve at the bilge. I just bought a 2009 Release but haven't gotten it yet, Next Week. But I presently have a 282 Sailfish which is very similar. That has the same issue. It says right in the owners manual to keep the valve shut unless using it.
 
Bob-- If I shut the valve all my bait dies. I guess I should have clarified while in use. I am aware of the valve.
 
I have the same problem on my 283 Release. I have tried shutting off the pump but it still overflows. Kind of a pain in the rear to have to close the valve everytime you go from one spot to another. Let me know if you find a cure.
 
By the way, Bob your gonna love your boat. What power did you get?

I noticed on another post that you got the Garmin Electronics. I installed two 4210's on my 283 and did not get the optional card. I'm happy with the pre-loaded maps and couldn't ask for more.
 
I don't know your Grady but why could you not try closeing the valve half way and then adjust from there?
On my voyager I can control the amount of water so as I have approx. the same amount flowing out as in the live well.
 
That is certainly worth a try. I wonder if it would harm the pump by restricting the amount of water.
 
That almost sounds too easy to work, I hope it does.

My boat is at the boat doctor getting it's first 100 hour check-up and a new live well pump because the old one is making a lot of noise and not pumping much. I am going to pick it up Friday and will try this Saturday.
 
I don't think it would damage your pump but I would cut the pump off when running any distance.
As long as the impeller stays wet and not run dry you should be ok.
 
A partially closed valve would not restrict the water flow, when running or on plane, enough to harm the pump, even if the pump is on, I think! If I can adjust the valve enough to equal the capacity of the out flow tube, then this would be the same amount of water the pump would ordinarly pump anyway.

The question is, when I stop, the pump is going to be pumping with a restriction (partially closed valve), is this going to harm the pump? Do I need to fully open the valve once I stop?

I think you answered the question, if the pump is getting any water, the impeller will not be harmed????
 
The 28'3" has tackle drawers on the port side right next to the livewell. Don't want saltwater constantly bathing my tackle drawers. Also, the best seat in the house for a long run is bean bags in the back or sitting on the aft folding seat. The water is plenty enough to soak anything on the deck, such as a bean bag and spray will come off the flow and mist you if you are sitting in the aft seat while running at speed. We aren't talking about a little trickle.
 
Odessa, have you tried clean the drain hose? Maybe something is stuck in there. Normally, the input hose is either 3/4 or 1" and the drain is 1 1/2", the pump should not overtake the drain(if is 1 1/2").
 
The drain is clear. Good thought though. The GPM forced through at speed must be more than the gravity fed drain can account for.
 
Did you buy this boat new or used?
Reason am asking is 1-maybe previous owner changed the pump to a super high flow or 2-the thru hull the water drains from is not the same as the scapper ones with the flap on the outside.
 
I purchased this boat new and the owner's packet I received from the dealer has the pump information in it. The thru hull fitting on the outflow is origional also. This is not a big problem for me, just for the crew which sometimes includes my wife which makes it a big problem for me.
 
Everything is original. Again to clarify, this is not a problem with the pump. If I am anchored and using the pump to draw water in, it drains just fine. When I am running, there is no need to use the pump because water is forced in and this is when it gets too full and starts overflowing. Tweaking the valve closed slightly to possibly cut down the amount of water being foced in is the most logical idea I have seen posted and will try it this weekend.
 
OdessaTim said:
Everything is original. Again to clarify, this is not a problem with the pump. If I am anchored and using the pump to draw water in, it drains just fine. When I am running, there is no need to use the pump because water is forced in and this is when it gets too full and starts overflowing. Tweaking the valve closed slightly to possibly cut down the amount of water being foced in is the most logical idea I have seen posted and will try it this weekend.
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Do you guys have a scoop under the boat by the pick up? If you do, maybe that is the "problem". Mine does not have a scoop(i think), just the thru hull. I run the pump all the time though.
 
LUNDINROOF said:
By the way, Bob your gonna love your boat. What power did you get?

I noticed on another post that you got the Garmin Electronics. I installed two 4210's on my 283 and did not get the optional card. I'm happy with the pre-loaded maps and couldn't ask for more.
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Where did you mount your VHF? I have a 5212 and the Garmin VHF mounted in the electric box which I think will come out and a second screen will go. Probably a 10" or another 12" display.


Got the boat yesterday. All I can say is WOW!!!! What a difference from the 282. Besides 50 more horsepower the 283 handles more like a sports car. It turns faster, hugs the water tighter and even gets .4 mpg better economy. Is this correct. According to the digital gauges the 250's at 3700 rpm's are getting 2.0 to 2.1 mpg. I never saw over 1.6 mpg with my 282 Sailfish. Sorry to get off topic here but I'm excited. :dance :dance :dance Oh yeah, It also hits speeds of 52.5 mph. The 283 never went past 48mph. I also noticed different props. The 282 had 15 1/4 X 19's and the new relaease is spinning 15 X 21's. I do feel a slight lesser hole shot performance from the 283 but after a few seconds the 250's are singing a new tune. Oh and yesterdays run was with full water and fuel tanks and 2 guys and a good amount of gear on board. Hey first trip out you gotta look good. All the matched sets of rods were presented proudly. The first ride found a few bugs which I will fix. Port engine "water in fuel gauge lit up". and shower sump retains water. (Kinda like a old girlfriend of mine). LOL I fixed the shower sump issue with a tierap (Not so easy w/ old girlfriend). The drain hose is too long and was looping up creating a trap where one is not needed. Now the "water in fuel issue" I will get new filters and hopefully that fixes the problem. Again, I'm sorry I went way off topic but hey I do have a 283 with the same issues if that counts for anything. :dance :dance

Bob, New proud owner of a 2009 283 Release w/ 250's and said goodbye to my 2004 282 Sailfish. And it wasn't the happiest day. She was and still is a great boat just not a great fishing boat.
 
I knew you would love it, those 250's kick a**. You are comparing your hole shot to the 282, my last boat was a 240, powered by a 225 and this thing beats the heck out of it. I also compare it to a sports car.

I put my VHF in the electronics box in the hardtop. I don't use it often and it's out of the way there. I made a stainless bracket in my sheet metal shop that raises it about 2 inches and tilts it down so that it is easy to see.

I am getting the same fuel burn rates you mentioned and even at 35 MPH with 5 guys, lots of gear and full everything I get around 1.8 to 1.7 MPG.

I love this boat, but then, I have loved every Grady I've owned (3).

Sorry to be off topic, maybe we should start a 283 topic.

I will try the live well this weekend and let you know how it works.
 
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