Scupper hoses

I had the dealership replace my scupper drain hoses on my 2007 Sailfish. Figured they had done it a time or two, which they had. They had one kid who always got stuck with this job so he got pretty good at it. Much better than I could have been. Port side went pretty easily for him. On starboard side, he gave me two choices as to where to cut in a six-inch pie plate. I chose the flat between the ladder and the transom door.

The hoses were in bad shape. Interestingly, they were labeled as marine fuel hoses.

I do believe this to be a very real safety issue. What prompted me to even look at the hoses was reading about a 265 that went turtle off NJ. Turns out a hose went bad. And, in a chop, enough water found its way in to pull the stern under. Fortunately, the overturned bow stayed afloat and they were found quickly, as I recall.
 
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I had the dealership replace my scupper drain hoses on my 2007 Sailfish. Figured they had done it a time or two, which they had. They had one kid who always got stuck with this job so he got pretty good at it. Much better than I could have been. Port side went pretty easily for him. On starboard side, he gave me two choices as to where to cut in a six-inch pie plate. I chose the flat between the ladder and the transom door.

The hoses were in bad shape. Interestingly, they were labeled as marine fuel hoses.

I do believe this to be a very real safety issue. What prompted me to even look at the hoses was reading about a 265 that went turtle off NJ. Turns out a hose went bad. And, in a chop, enough water found its way in to pull the stern under. Fortunately, the overturned bow stayed afloat and they were found quickly, as I recall.
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Was the other option to put the pie plate on the side instead of the floor? If you happen to have a picture of where the plate was installed, I would appreciate it.

Since the boat is still in the water, I am thinking to plug the scupper thru hulls, install a pie plate and replace the hoses or at least put some flexseal tape until hoses can be replaced.

Has anyone ever replaced scupper hoses with the boat still in the water? If that’s not a good idea, then I will just reinforce with the tape. Boat is currently in a slip and marina won’t be able to do any work till mid season.
 
I think you're fine to replace it in the water - just have a "worst case" back-up plan. For example, if your plug should fail... what is your back-up to plug the hole well enough to get the boat on land?

Beaching the boat can be one of the back-up plans.

If you're in good standing with your marina (friendly with them (buy things from the service department on occassion, etc), I can't imagine that if you explain how bad the hoses are that they wouldn't help you out?

How 'bout another marina that you can drive the boat to?
 
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"Was the other option to put the pie plate on the side instead of the floor? If you happen to have a picture of where the plate was installed, I would appreciate it."


As I recall, no, the secondary option was a pie plate just forward of the stern door. Easier for the mechanic, but neither of us thought that was the best place for it.

I just had some fairly minor surgery, so it may be a week or two or before I get to the boat for a pic. But I will get there - someday - maybe - I hope! Been too long already!
 
Sorry it's taken me a while to get to the boat for pics. Getting over some minor surgery. Damn the boat was dirty.

Anyway, first pic shows pie plate that dealer cut as access for starboard side deck drain hoses. This is the flat just aft of the transom door which is open and partially visible on the right side of the pic.
The ladder is folded down, but you can see stains from where I have not cleaned in two months :(.

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This pic is what the phone sees when I drop just the camera lens just below the pie plate. (Dennis, note that clamps are oriented oppositely - you taught me to look for that!)
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Rob
 
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Sorry it's taken me a while to get to the boat for pics. Getting over some minor surgery. Damn the boat was dirty.

Anyway, first pic shows pie plate that dealer cut as access for starboard side deck drain hoses. This is the flat just aft of the transom door which is open and partially visible on the right side of the pic.
The ladder is folded down, but you can see stains from where I have not cleaned in two months :(.

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This pic is what the phone sees when I drop just the camera lens just below the pie plate. (Dennis, note that clamps are oriented oppositely - you taught me to look for that!)
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Rob
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Rob, Thanks for the detailed info! Hope you are recovering quickly to get back out on the water. I will put the deck plate in the same spot. Debating whether to put an 8 inch plate to give me a little more room to work. Any advantages/disadvantages of an 8 inch vs 6 inch plate in that spot between the transom door and ladder?

Also, I did notice that the double clamps on the port side scupper thru hull hoses have the worm gear screws next to each other and not 180 degrees apart as per ABYC. It's not leaking but think I'm gonna bring that up to ABYC spec.

Btw, the information on these forums is great! I wish I would have researched this site a little more before making my first GW purchase. Would have been a little more informed. Either way, GG is a great resource for GW owners. Thanks again to all who have provided very helpful information!
 
Think about using a better hose. I used 1.5" Series 148 PVC hose. There is no metal in them. Not rubber. Smooth surface inside & out. Great for clamps. Series 149 is black.

There are others that will work well also
 
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if you really want to get fancy, go with scandvik clamps. they have slightly rounded cross section so the edges dont dig into the hose and grooves instead of slits so its smooth on the hose side allowing for more even compression
 
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