Seakeeper Ride on 330 Express Review

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I installed the Seakeeper Ride active trim system (not the gyro!) on my 2003 330 Express this year. I did 3 200 mile (roundtrip) offshore fishing trips and I feel I can now give a real report on how it performs.

Basically, I love it and feel that it was well worth the ~$22k total cost. The equipment itself was $10k (600 series for 31-36 ft boats) but the installation was pretty expensive because I glassed in the original factory trim tab pockets. They now make some 3D printed plugs for various boats (incl. mine) that would have reduced the install price significantly, but I did my install just before they announced them!

However, what really surprised me is that their effect is a lot more subtle than I'd expected. I thought I'd push a switch and a lot of the movement of the boat would sorta disappear, especially in small waves. In fact, the opposite is true: in a tight 2 ft wind chop headsea (e.g. Cape Cod Bay with the wind up above 12kts), the Ride pretty much doesn't make any difference at all! It probably does a lot more for a smaller, lighter boat, but when switching it on or off I really couldn't tell the difference.

Where it excels and earns its money is out in the open ocean with 3+ foot swells. The effect is VERY noticeable -- in a following sea, instead of that moment when you crest over the swell and you expect the bow to rise too much setting up for a bit of slam into the trough, the Ride pulls the bow down towards level and then releases it just at the crest so it enters the trough without downward momentum. It's a bit unnerving at first because your brain says "oh here it comes" and then it doesn't!

Similarly for beam seas - your brain expects the boat to roll both ways and instead the boat balances neatly on keel. It takes a little getting used to.
Head seas are also a significant improvement in the swells - reduced pounding and more comfortable, BUT anyone who is saying it adds 5 feet to their boat is lying. The boat is still the same boat!

So overall, I think it's worth the $$ for two reasons: Long trips are just less tiring and demanding... It's not 10x better or even 2x better, but it's definitely 1.3x - 1.5x which is pretty damn good! Secondly, its so good at trimming the boat, you just stop thinking about it entirely. Everyone decides to sit on the same side - nothing changes, burn 200 gallons of gas, still on proper trim. Basically should be standard on every ocean going boat and it sounds like that's happening pretty quick!
 
Basically, I love it and feel that it was well worth the ~$22k total cost.
Holy Moly!

First thanks for your review,
not many of them to find and particularly for telling the true cost of a SK Ride installation and that it's not working under all conditions.
SK Ride probably does not work well to nil in short period and not too high head sea as boat does not rock enough to trigger the computer to move the blades. No idea, but you may tweak that if there is a setting for sensibility or something similar.

As i drift a lot i could imagine a gyro to keep boat from rocking and rolling but see the need for me to have SK Ride as i'm fine with how my 306 Canyon handles wavy conditions up to 5ft.
But i understand that it works and makes boating a better experience for some boaters and on some boats.

Chris
 
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I installed the Seakeeper Ride active trim system (not the gyro!) on my 2003 330 Express this year. I did 3 200 mile (roundtrip) offshore fishing trips and I feel I can now give a real report on how it performs.

Basically, I love it and feel that it was well worth the ~$22k total cost. The equipment itself was $10k (600 series for 31-36 ft boats) but the installation was pretty expensive because I glassed in the original factory trim tab pockets. They now make some 3D printed plugs for various boats (incl. mine) that would have reduced the install price significantly, but I did my install just before they announced them!

However, what really surprised me is that their effect is a lot more subtle than I'd expected. I thought I'd push a switch and a lot of the movement of the boat would sorta disappear, especially in small waves. In fact, the opposite is true: in a tight 2 ft wind chop headsea (e.g. Cape Cod Bay with the wind up above 12kts), the Ride pretty much doesn't make any difference at all! It probably does a lot more for a smaller, lighter boat, but when switching it on or off I really couldn't tell the difference.

Where it excels and earns its money is out in the open ocean with 3+ foot swells. The effect is VERY noticeable -- in a following sea, instead of that moment when you crest over the swell and you expect the bow to rise too much setting up for a bit of slam into the trough, the Ride pulls the bow down towards level and then releases it just at the crest so it enters the trough without downward momentum. It's a bit unnerving at first because your brain says "oh here it comes" and then it doesn't!

Similarly for beam seas - your brain expects the boat to roll both ways and instead the boat balances neatly on keel. It takes a little getting used to.
Head seas are also a significant improvement in the swells - reduced pounding and more comfortable, BUT anyone who is saying it adds 5 feet to their boat is lying. The boat is still the same boat!

So overall, I think it's worth the $$ for two reasons: Long trips are just less tiring and demanding... It's not 10x better or even 2x better, but it's definitely 1.3x - 1.5x which is pretty damn good! Secondly, its so good at trimming the boat, you just stop thinking about it entirely. Everyone decides to sit on the same side - nothing changes, burn 200 gallons of gas, still on proper trim. Basically should be standard on every ocean going boat and it sounds like that's happening pretty quick!
Ehoch seakeeper model did you install?
 
I just wish the company named their products so it was easy to tell them apart. In this case it sounds like it is the trim tab replacement, not the "Seakeeper"

Glad you like them, and that they are working for you.
 
I usually refer to the system as Ride or Seakeeper Ride in my posts to avoid confusion. One point about the Ride system is that if you 'problem' is the rolling of the boat when nut cruising or at slow trolling speeds, the Ride doesn't help since it usually kicks in at 10 mph. The gyro and auto tab systems are totally different (and priced) systems.
I thought I posted my comments on my 450 system and the change I made to the already programmed TCC data but mu post is nowhere to be found:(
I also was not able to figure out if and how the firmware can be updated from my Garmin MFD. I had to download the update to a thumb drive and then buy a special cable to connect the thumb drive that has a micro USB connector that plugs into the Ride controller.
If interested in the one change I made to my TCC that solved an issue, let me know.
 
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Yes Seakeepr Ride is the correct name for their interceptor style blades who replace trim tabs and they work same as trim tabs only after reaching a certain speed. As the blades are much faster mocing they can reduce roll and rock when at speed, but not at low speed or stopped.

The Seakeeper Gyro reduces roll when stopped and under way but not trim angle and is much more expensive and need a considerable amount of space and startup time.
Chris

BTW: There are other brands who do the same for considerable less, but problem with filling the void for the trim tabs remains and can become expensive.