265x with a bow mount trolling motor?

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Is there anyone with a 265 express with a bow mount trolling motor? any brand... Actual 265x experience requested.....
I am kicking the idea around and I am wondering if a 90" will work well. It seems to fall into the parameters of the installation guide (Garmin Kraken)
The difference in price from 90" to 110" is $2000!!!!

I have stared at way too much info, positive and negative, about all brands, and if it happens, it will be a Garmin Kraken 90". So I don't need to go down that rabbit hole.

I will post measurement pictures when I get a chance.
 
Hi there. I am literally researching this as we speak over on the hull truth. Found a guy who sent me this. 90” works perfectly

Hi Brian. Yessir, I had a Kraken on my 265.

I installed the 90" and it worked flawlessly in most fishable conditions. A really tight 3+ft chop and it will begin cavitating a bit but when that sea state occurs we're generally beyond the point we can bottom fish anyway. Any seas with a long duration and she held just fine all day long.

I hated to do so, but I did end up needing to cut a small notch in the bow rail so that the shaft could fit through for deployment/retrieval.

I placed the batteries under the bench seat on the starboard side of the helm. Not sure if your starboard helm hatch is the same as mine, but there's a nice little recess towards the aft of that hatch and the batteries fit there perfectly (IMHO). I removed the trim on the port side of the cuddy and ran the wire from the bow back to mid-ship, then shot across to the starboard side hatch.
 
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Thanks! Did he have pix?
I will measure five more times and stare at it for a couple weeks.
Figure out how its going to angle in there. I have a Capstan and a samson post up there.
May ditch the capstan and use the wiring for Kraken.
Will have to cut rail. I think that rail is poorly designed for looks and not usefulness.
probably move Nav lights to hardtop.

LiFePO 36v Battery probably in fwd storage under V berth (Extra anchor line and anchor is ther now). Proper charger.
Will have to fix my 30A Shore power feed that I never use

Need to be ready for next WM 3x points deal...
 
He did include a few pics. His user name over there is ERG153 if you want to reach out.
 

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Love it! I have been trying to come up with a hinge for the actual bow rail. I don’t want to eliminate a section but have a way to move it like a gates.
 
Pieces are coming together

this thing is huge! It is an 8D size. Going to have to make my own tray.
I'm thinking its going under the V berth.

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Yesterday I stared at it for 3 days and I think I have a plan

I will remove the capstan. Hopefully with the Kraken, I will not need to pull anchor...

Unlike the other threads that are putting a mounting plate under the pulpit, I will go over the pulpit using the 4 existing bolts. The plate will overhang the starboard cleat leaving it still usable. There is space to put a line on it.

The 265 has enough room to lay the Kraken straight back instead of the usual angle towards the gunnel

I will remove the piece of handrail but I wonder if it could be rerouted around the kraken

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Ok. So I lugged it up there and dry fitted it. It won’t work straight back where I showed it. The pole is too long. Moving it forward causes issues with the vertical rail piece when the new bracket would be on top of the pulpit. It probably works if the bracket goes under the pulpit like the other guys did. But that puts it way out there and more difficult to deploy.

I played around with having it on top of the pulpit and angled backwards I think it would require a bracket to overhang a couple of inches to starboard so I could get some more screws in.
Now I’m contemplating just taking the pulpit off and mounting it like most people mount a trolling motor right to the bow. I’ve already pulled off the capstan and I’m probably gonna pull the Sampson post off too.
Has anyone ever pulled a pulpit off? How bad is the 5200?

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The railing was more problematic than I thought. There is a pipe inside of the pipe from the bend all the way around I think it probably goes all the way around to the other side, so the whole front piece has another pipe inside of the pipe. Luckily, I had a big pipe cutter not just one of those little copper cutter things.

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I would not remove the pulpit as you will likely need some fiberglass work. Why remove it when others have found solutions to mount the trolling motors on the Grady's? Just asking as not sure why your mounting solution can't work like some of the one's I have seen on this site which were done with complete success.....
I haven't reached this level yet so watching as a learning experience.....I have this as a want on my list when I can swing it.
 
I would not remove the pulpit as you will likely need some fiberglass work. Why remove it when others have found solutions to mount the trolling motors on the Grady's? Just asking as not sure why your mounting solution can't work like some of the one's I have seen on this site which were done with complete success.....
I haven't reached this level yet so watching as a learning experience.....I have this as a want on my list when I can swing it.
ya I had the bolts out of the pulpit (not easy to do....) for my first try(should've took pix) that wasn't working. I have to put them back( not easy....) to try to mount my plywood template out farther.
I agree. Need to do like the others with the pulpit. But I really want to go straight back. TRYING is not easy. It weighs 55 pounds and 104" long. Using the paper template they give you does not tell you were the pole will land and at what height. Yoy have to have it bolted to test the launch & retreive. Will try again. Disappointed Wasted a sunny warm day.
 
OK, so after many different tests of mounting, over pulpit, then under, then under with a wedge, then maybe remove pulpit, I finally just kept it simple stupid and went over the top.

To clarify things;
Normal mounting has you angle the motor toward the gunnel. On a CC that keeps it out of your walking path. On a walkaround, generally there is a seat on the foredeck.
The 265 express has a relatively flat foredeck so it is possible to lay the motor straight back. That keeps my walking path to the bow clear.

Tilt angles; The top of pulpit is angled upward slightly. The bottom of the pulpit is severely angled upward. To mount to the bottom, you would have to wedge the motor mount to flatten the angle.
The motor is very long. even a small angle puts the stowed position of the motor head below the base. It hits the deck. Flush to the bottom of pulpit, the drop is about 1" per foot. Not doable...

I flirted with making a plywood/fiberglass wedge and mounting to the bottom of pulpit so the motor is level with the deck. I made a qick template of a wedge to see it in my brain.
The entire mount would have to be farther forward than if mounted over the top of the pulpit. Also the pulpit narrows as you go forward.
Also, mounted below, the entire thing will hang on the bolts.

I had a rectangular plate made 3/8" aluminum 25.5"x 13" (could simply be 26 x13. I made it 1/2" short to accomodate possibly moving forward under pulpit.)
The part with the motor that hangs out is 13x13.

Eventually I decided to KISS and go over the top where there is much less angle and wedge the motor with washers if necessary.
This was the easiest way to get it done. I was by myself with a 55 pound motor. Having the weigh on top of the pulpit with a knee on it until I clamped it. The nI could wiggle it to the best position and drill down thru plate and pulpit and put a bolt in. 3/8-16 x 3.5" bolts

Mounting on top kept it close enough for the 48" power cable to reach inside the cabin. PERFECT!
I drilled hole for wire thru solid glass in bow, not the cored deck.
I mounted a box with a 60A breaker switch (MRCB). I had exactly enough 6awg left from my winch project to get from the new 36v battery to the box. PERFECT!
I will clearly mark the wire 36Vdc and the winch wire 12Vdc so someone in the future doesn't do something stupid.

Mounted the 36v 100 Ah LiFePO4 and its charger in "the refrigerator space". I moved the Water heater 120v AC power line to the space with a GFCI outlet
2 strap tie downs and a 2x3 across the top for good measure

Did all the setup and software updates with Remote unit and Active Captain and connected to chartplotter GPS1242Plus

I am able to launch and stow as mounted but getting it to latch when stowing is tricky. I may need to add washers to wedge the angle up just a hair
I still need to mount the Shaft stow bracket to the deck. That keeps the thing from wobbling when you are running.

When the motor is stowed, the plate is solid. When the motor is deployed, there is some flex in the aluminum plate. I may add a piece of aluminum L bracket. I'll have to see how it looks on the water, in use.

I will reinstall my Powerwinch300 after sanding and painting it.
I pulled off a lot of extra anchor rode and anchors and chain from the water heater space that I hope I will no longer need.

I have end caps for the railing. Will post pix of how I clean that up.


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