You sure do have a thin skin CJ. There is nothing "wild" about what I said, I posted facts and figures and left my opinion out of it. I let readers decide for themselves what engine is best for them. You are reading in your own interpretation of what you think I meant and your bias is clearly showing.
In both my posts I NEVER said I don't like etecs - YOU put those words in my mouth.
If you think the 2 gals of gas I keep in the garage for my lawnmower is the same fire hazard that the 16 GALLON "keg" of 2S oil you originally mentioned then you go right ahead believing that.
If you're unlucky enough to have a fire I can just hear the fire marshall say having that much oil around contributed to it. And your homeowners insurance may very well find a way to deny coverage because you were storing that much. If you think its worth it then you go ahead and gamble.
If you're too cheap to buy the PBR test then here is another test done on the same boat by Evinrude themselves no less that confirmed the etecs get significantly worse fuel economy than Yamaha 4S's.
- The E-tec burns 3 gallons more across the operating range. Even at a 1K rpm troll, the E-tec burns twice as much as the F250. Do the math but thats gonna cost significantly more than a 4S in fuel.
http://www.evinrude.com/NR/rdonlyres/CC ... /PE426.pdf
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/prod ... 250tur.pdf
As far as a 4S being the the only way engine manufacturers could meet the EPA regulations - actually the 2S etec does and is a cleaner running engine than most 4S's. So much for 4S's being the only way for manufacturers to comply with the EPA regs. And yet that's still not enough for people to prefer the etec over a 4S.
And if you're handy enough to change the oil and gear lube on a 4S, they're no more expensive to maintain either. The money you save on buying 2S oil at $ 40 a gallon more than offsets that maintenace that only dealers usually do on 4Ss like timing belts etc.
You obviously didn't want to understand my "orphan" comment either. I said if you repower a GW with an etec it'll become an orphan meaning there are not many GW's at all out there with an etec. Most people associate GW with just Yamaha engines because they've been exclusively installing them for many many years. Hang an etec on a GW and it will be an oddball.
Perhaps you ought to look at this list of NINETEEN boat manufacturers that install 4S's exclusively and have built many thousands of boats with them.
- Angler, Boston Whaler, Century, Cobia, Contender, Edgewater, Everglades, Fountain ( rare Merc Opti ) , Grady-White, Jupiter, Polar, Pursuit, Regulator, Robalo, Scout, SeaHunt, SeaFox, Southport, WorldCat.
And how many boat manufacturers install the etec exclusively ?? - NONE !!!!
High end boat builders like Intrepid, SeaVee, Venture, and Yellowfin have told me at boat shows that the vast majority of boats they build have 4S's now with very few 2Ss anymore.
Their boats are the most expensive on the market and their customers can afford whatever they want. Its another indication that boaters who want the best outboard engine get a 4S over any 2S. If you won't believe me then call the companies and prove it to yourself.
In both my posts I NEVER said I don't like etecs - YOU put those words in my mouth.
If you think the 2 gals of gas I keep in the garage for my lawnmower is the same fire hazard that the 16 GALLON "keg" of 2S oil you originally mentioned then you go right ahead believing that.
If you're unlucky enough to have a fire I can just hear the fire marshall say having that much oil around contributed to it. And your homeowners insurance may very well find a way to deny coverage because you were storing that much. If you think its worth it then you go ahead and gamble.
If you're too cheap to buy the PBR test then here is another test done on the same boat by Evinrude themselves no less that confirmed the etecs get significantly worse fuel economy than Yamaha 4S's.
- The E-tec burns 3 gallons more across the operating range. Even at a 1K rpm troll, the E-tec burns twice as much as the F250. Do the math but thats gonna cost significantly more than a 4S in fuel.
http://www.evinrude.com/NR/rdonlyres/CC ... /PE426.pdf
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/prod ... 250tur.pdf
As far as a 4S being the the only way engine manufacturers could meet the EPA regulations - actually the 2S etec does and is a cleaner running engine than most 4S's. So much for 4S's being the only way for manufacturers to comply with the EPA regs. And yet that's still not enough for people to prefer the etec over a 4S.
And if you're handy enough to change the oil and gear lube on a 4S, they're no more expensive to maintain either. The money you save on buying 2S oil at $ 40 a gallon more than offsets that maintenace that only dealers usually do on 4Ss like timing belts etc.
You obviously didn't want to understand my "orphan" comment either. I said if you repower a GW with an etec it'll become an orphan meaning there are not many GW's at all out there with an etec. Most people associate GW with just Yamaha engines because they've been exclusively installing them for many many years. Hang an etec on a GW and it will be an oddball.
Perhaps you ought to look at this list of NINETEEN boat manufacturers that install 4S's exclusively and have built many thousands of boats with them.
- Angler, Boston Whaler, Century, Cobia, Contender, Edgewater, Everglades, Fountain ( rare Merc Opti ) , Grady-White, Jupiter, Polar, Pursuit, Regulator, Robalo, Scout, SeaHunt, SeaFox, Southport, WorldCat.
And how many boat manufacturers install the etec exclusively ?? - NONE !!!!
High end boat builders like Intrepid, SeaVee, Venture, and Yellowfin have told me at boat shows that the vast majority of boats they build have 4S's now with very few 2Ss anymore.
Their boats are the most expensive on the market and their customers can afford whatever they want. Its another indication that boaters who want the best outboard engine get a 4S over any 2S. If you won't believe me then call the companies and prove it to yourself.
