Wet Ride: Canyon 271 vs. Canyon 283

[mous]

I came across an older thread discussing how wet the Grady-White Release 283 can be in rough conditions.

I’d appreciate hearing from owners of the Canyon 271 and Canyon 283 about their experience running into short-period head seas of 2-4 feet.


Are these boats relatively dry in such conditions? If not, what adjustments help reduce wetness without compromising ride comfort?


Most importantly, is the heavier Canyon 271 noticeably drier and provides a softer ride than the Canyon 283, or is it the other way around due to the longer waterline for 283?


I’d particularly appreciate firsthand experience from owners familiar with either or both models.

 

[JJF]

I have a 306 Canyon. It is very dry in the seas you describe...unless there seas are quartering or the wind is blowing just right. with the spray wings on, it's VERY dry. Note: I have a full windscreen (i.e. goes all the way to the t-top and wraps around.

 

[mous]

I have a 306 Canyon. It is very dry in the seas you describe...unless there seas are quartering or the wind is blowing just right. with the spray wings on, it's VERY dry. Note: I have a full windscreen (i.e. goes all the way to the t-top and wraps around.

Thank you very much for your comment. There must be 283 or 271 owners around… hope to hear from them.

 

[luckydude]

I came across an older thread discussing how wet the Grady-White Release 283 can be in rough conditions.

I’d appreciate hearing from owners of the Canyon 271 and Canyon 283 about their experience running into short-period head seas of 2-4 feet.


Are these boats relatively dry in such conditions? If not, what adjustments help reduce wetness without compromising ride comfort?


Most importantly, is the heavier Canyon 271 noticeably drier and provides a softer ride than the Canyon 283, or is it the other way around due to the longer waterline for 283?


I’d particularly appreciate firsthand experience from owners familiar with either or both models.

Not a Canyon owner but I fish on my buddies 271 all the time. It can be a wet ride, it just depends on the wind direction relative to the boat. Going uphill with wind coming from 10 oclock or 2 oclock, yeah, it gets wet. The wings help but it still gets wet.

That said, that 271 hull is *special*. My personal opinion (worth what you paid for it) is that might be Grady's best hull. It's about as nice of a ride that you will get out of any mono hull.

My dream boat would be a 271 in a walk around config. I'd pull the hard top and do a pilot house in a heartbeat. Sounds sort of like a sailfish, right? Why Grady keeps dumping their walk arounds I have no idea. Sailfish, Gulf Stream, Seafarer, Adventure all gone. Come on, Grady, some of us fish on cold oceans.

If I were younger, and made of money, I'd try start up Grady-White West Coast. Buy the molds for those walk arounds and bring them back. I'd love a pilot house on a Sailfish with modern engines/electronics.

 

[Mikew21sk]

I just picked my new to me 2017 271 at the beginning of September, The hull is off the chart good. It does get wet if the wind is blowing certain directions, but the way I see it, it is a center console..... Coming from and 282 sailfish and being only 50lbs lighter, it feels A LOT more nimble and lighter than the 282. It is a blast to run!! I have found that in rougher and choppy conditions it likes to run faster rather than slower. Let me know what other questions you have.

 

[mous]

I just picked my new to me 2017 271 at the beginning of September, The hull is off the chart good. It does get wet if the wind is blowing certain directions, but the way I see it, it is a center console..... Coming from and 282 sailfish and being only 50lbs lighter, it feels A LOT more nimble and lighter than the 282. It is a blast to run!! I have found that in rougher and choppy conditions it likes to run faster rather than slower. Let me know what other questions you have.

Thank you for the reply, and congrats on the 271. Interesting that it likes running faster in the chop. That’s the opposite of what I’ve had to do with my current Grady 228.

My conditions: mostly solo offshore, steep chop around 3 ft at only 4 to 5 seconds apart, runs of 10 to 35 miles. Comfort bow-on is my priority.

Grady 228 handles it, but I end up throttling back to just planing speed (15-17 mph), and my back has had enough. On The Hull Truth, most recommended going 31 ft+ (Cape Horn 31T came up a lot), saying anything under 30 ft will suffer in that sea state.

If I stay with Grady, can the 271 or 283 Canyon handle that chop relatively comfortably at a decent cruise, or is that really 30 ft+ territory?

A few quick questions from your experience:

1. What speed do you settle at heading into steep chop, and does it slam or stay civil?
2. Which handled head seas better for you, the 282 Sailfish or the 271 Canyon?
3. Any trim habits that keep the 271 dry and soft?

Thanks again, much appreciated.

 

[Billv]

My last boat was a 283. I have a marlin now. The 283 runs like a tank very solid boat keep in mind. It is the center console so if you hit a wave and wind in the right direction you’re gonna get wet, highly recommend this boat though.

 

[mous]

My last boat was a 283. I have a marlin now. The 283 runs like a tank very solid boat keep in mind. It is the center console so if you hit a wave and wind in the right direction you’re gonna get wet, highly recommend this boat though.

Thanks for sharing your experience with the 283.

Did you ever run it in conditions like mine, steep 3 ft chop at around 5 seconds apart? If so, what speed did you find you could hold heading into it before it started to pound heavily?

Have you ever fished or run a 271? If so, how did its ride compare to your 283 in a head sea?

Also, did you ever use side curtains on the 283 to cut down on spray, and if so, did they make a noticeable difference?

Thanks again, much appreciated.