Re: scary stuff right here....
catch22 said:
jimmy's marine service said:
BobP said:
Double ..,
in light of the further info you provided and the experience you have, if you want something very simple but effective, you can take all these fused leads (with waterproof fuse holders only), take all the tails of the leads and crimp them together into one larger size lug. If you need to disconnect any individual one later, pull out the fuse and close up the holder. I have two threaded studs off each battery terminal, so the lighter smaller gauge lugs are together on one, and the heavier #2 AWG lugs are together on the other. Since you know you can only have so many lugs under one nut, it can get difficult to find enough studs.
Since you have the right experience, I expect you will know how to pick a lug of the right size and use the right crimping tool so that all of the leads are properly secured. Be sure to add heat shrinks and use tinned copper lugs not the bare copper ones used in the construction trades.
Saltwater reaps havoc with bare copper.
Grady use a coated copper wire that was well protected and less costly than tin plated, but tin plated is the best since you don't have to clear off the coating to make termiations, and when being around saltwater.
you're kidding me right ??? the more i read from you,the more scared i become...your advice is insane,you really need to stop giving advice when you clearly have no clue...anyone,and i mean anyone who follows your advice is asking for trouble...
i can't imagine what a mess your boat must be...is it insured ??? when was the last survey ??? i read things you post,and i truly try to keep an open mind,however,the more i read,the more i can't believe what i read from you..."strip all the leads then crimp them all together into a battery lug"...WTF ??? "diy" isn't that what you call yourself ??? mabey you should try this one "dangerous"...or mabey this one "don't let common sense get in your way"...
i have absolutley no problem giving guys advice,and i've no problem with guys working on their own rigs,my problem comes in when someone who clearly lacks any knowledge or idea of the right way,the accepted way to repair things,gives their 2 cents,which is quite wrong...what happens is others will follow this route,thinking it's an accepted way of doing things,then when a later date arrives and there's problems,someone with the proper knowledge and experience explains the problem,and tells exactly what's wrong and why it's wrong,along with exactly what caused a problem...
i'm not sure what you do or you did for a living,i'm guessing you're an older guy,but i suggest you stick with what you know,'cause clearly,you don't know too much about marine systems and the like,your words prove my point...you're probably a nice old guy,probably retired too,do yourself a favor,stick to giving advice about the proper golf swing,leave boats,and motors to someone who knows what they're doing.... :wink: :wink:
Nothing but insults. An absolute disgrace!
insults ??? read what i posted....if i see something that's not an accepted form of repair,then i point it out,nothing more,nothing less...advice given by this guy should not be followed...
think about this for a second...you follow this guys advice,you strip all the leads to the fuse holders,and crimp them all together into a single lug,you then connect this single lug to the battery...the inevitible happens,vibration actually loosens the crimp,one of these leads is the bilge pump,the auto switch fuse...it rains,the boat fills with water and sinks...the cause of the submersion is determined to be the connection at the battery...you followed this guys advice,you did something his way,the way i see it the advice giver should be responsible for the bad advice given...
there's quite a few things wrong with the response "bobp" gave,crimping a bunch of wires together into a single lug isn;t an accepted practice,it's not gonna hold up...making connections directly at the batteries isn't the best approach,the batteries should have cables for power to a control switch and grounds,nothing else,and another thing,batteries shouldn't have wing nuts,you should have lock nuts...
i perform repairs and give advice on repairs,following abyc codes,that means there's are done the correct way,the accepted way...now granted,there's more than one way to skin a cat,however,trying to reinvent the wheel isn't needed...
honda motor company had a print add a few years ago,it was a picture of a chair,the chair had a stick tied to it,in place of a leg...the caption under it said "sure it's fixed,but would you sit on it ??" this is kinda what we have here,in this discussion..bob has taken a few shots at me,read some of his posts,you'll see it,he doesn't come right out and call me wrong,he implies things...example,an aluminum part that has been galvanically corroded is structually fine,corrosion on a fuel tank is ok....everyone has the right to dissagree,everyone has a right to their own opinion-i have absolutley no problem with that...what i have a problem with is the poor advice given,some guys really don't know about things,they ask questions on a message board,looking for a correct answer,when someone gives them an answer,and that answer is incorrect,are you supposed to remain silent and allow that person to believe he's correct ??? here's another one....someone pm'd me asking me about a boat for sale on here,they asked my opinion...i gave it,i told what i knew first hand from the owner,i spoke with him concerning the problem,the opinion was,one of the engines has a knock,it's not good,plus the boat is over powered,i would stay far away from it...should i have not told anything ??? it's kinda like the same thing ??? we all want good free advice,right ??? i just like to see people get the correct advice...i realize i may be a little hard on people on occasion,but hey...i'm from new jerseywhatta ya want....